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Zvinoonekwa naEwan McGregor naCharley Boorman mukati megirazi rinoona zviri kumashure…
Varume vaviri vachinakidzwa nezuva rebvudzi-rakanaka vakatsunga kutanga rwendo rwavo rwechitatu rwehupenyu hwese. Pashure Yakareba Nzira Idenderedzwa Mu 2004, Nzira Yakareba Pasi muna 2007, inguva ye Yakareba Nzira kumusoro. Ewan McGregor naCharley Boorman vanofamba muSouth neCentral America kumusana kwemagetsi emagetsi Harley-Davidsons nemigwagwa inokanda matambudziko akakwana kwavari. Ino nguva ivo vanobata mamaira zviuru gumi nemazana pamusoro pezana ramazuva nekuyambuka muganho gumi nematanhatu nenyika gumi nenhatu, kubva kuguta reUshuaia kumucheto kweSouth America. Hezvino izvo zvakarayirwa nevarume vaviri t13,000 pamusoro pezita revhidhiyo.
Iwo maviri awakawana akafamba mazana emakiromita kuburikidza nemakore. Rwendo rwakudzidzisei nezvehukama?
Ewan McGregor: Isu tave nenguva dzese takataura nezvekuvimbika kune umwe neumwe uye nyore kune mumwe, uye ndinonzwa pamberi pekare kupfuura zvatakaita rwendo rwekutanga rwatakadzidza kune imwe nzvimbo kuti zvakakosha kuva nehushingi hwekuvimbika uye kana chinhu chimwe chiri isn ' zvakakodzera, iti haina kukodzera, uye kazhinji zvakaoma kuita izvi, shure kwezvose. Nekudaro ini ndinonzwa isu tave nekuziva kuti hapana nhanho mukugara takatenderedza, tichishungurudzwa nemumwe. Zvakanaka kwazvo kungoiburitsa mukati meyakavhurika uye utaure chinhu chimwe uye isu mumwe nemumwe anoedza izvi. Ini ndinonzwa isu tine edu kumusoro uye pasi, zvisinei zvakakura pane chimwe chinhu, isu tinongori kune mumwe nemumwe.
Ini ndinonzwa kuti pane nguva kana tambokwanisa kudzidzisana. Hushamwari hwakanaka chose. Ini ndinonzwa isu tichingodzidzisana chaizvo chaizvo. Pakati pebhasikoro rwendo rwemwedzi mitatu kana mwedzi mina, iwe unogara uine mumwe nguva dzose; urikushandisa zvinotevera kune mumwe nemumwe, iwe uri kutarisa chaipo munzvimbo yekutandarira pamwe uye urikumisikidza matende pamwe chete. Hazvina mhosva kuti muri, muri pamwe chete nguva dzose. Iwe urikuita zvese sarudzo pamwe chete, senge 'nzvimbo inoenda inotevera'. Saka, shure kwezvose, pachave nenguva dzese kana iwe uchifanira kunge uri wega uye uchave. Isu tinokwanisa kunzwanana… kana iine simba uye tiri kushandisa uye inotonhora uye yakanyorova kana patinoshandisa panguva yehusiku… izvi zviitiko zvakaoma, tinobatsirana; isu tinongochengetedzana kuenda. Ihwo hushamwari hunosiyanisa.
Charley Boorman: Ndakusuwa murume. Takasangana takatenderedza makumi maviri nemashanu emakore apfuura pane bhaisikopo. Takanga tave mumwe nemumwe achiridza mufirimu… isu mumwe nemumwe taingova nevana vedu vekutanga. Ini ndinogara ndichifunga dialog yedu yekutanga… nezve mabhasikoro uye makore makumi maviri nemashanu gare gare, tiri kungotumirana tsamba dzakadai sekuti: “Haungadi kutenga mudhudhudhu uyu here?” Uye isu tinongokupa iwe mwedzi mitatu yekushandisa pamwe chete pamidhudhudhu uye zvisinei tiri kutumira mumwe mapikicha e motokari kuti tinoshuva.
Ndinonzwa zvichinyanya kukosha kuti vanhu vave neshungu… kufarira… kushandisa mabhiza kana kukwira kana kushandisa mabhasikoro kana zvisinei. Zvakanaka kwazvo kumweya. Uye kana iwe ukagona kuwana waunofambidzana naye wauchazokwanisa kugovana zviitiko zvinoenderana ne… uyo anozvifarira zvakanyanya sezvamunoita, saka chimiro chemutambo wakaitwa kudenga chaizvo. Mushure meizvozvo kuve nekwaniso yekuenda uye woita rwechitatu rwakakura rwendo pamwe chete uye hunyanzvi nyika, vanhu uye tsika nekudya nemitauro…. Sezvandakambotaura, zvakanaka chaizvo; ihwo hukama hwakasarudzika uye hwakasarudzika. Ini ndinonzwa isu tiri mumwe nemumwe rombo rakanaka.
Paive paine imwe nhanho dai iwe waizeza nezve magetsi Harleys, imwe nhanho kana iwe waida kusiyanisa fomati?
Ewan McGregor: Yakanga iri nguva yakatarwa yekugadzirisa kuenderera mberi mabhasikoro emagetsi. Zvakatitorera nguva kuti tizvifunge. Russ Malkin, mugadziri wedu, akafambisa pfungwa. Ini ndinonzwa kukurumidza kwazvo kana tangotsunga kuita rwendo rwacho senge pamwe tinogona kuenda kumabhasikoro emagetsi. Iwe unonzwisisa kuti ndiko kumhanya kwenguva, uye izvo zvinogona kunge zviri semhedzisiro yaRuss inogona kunge ichishuvira zvikuru pamusoro penyaya dzisati dzapedzwa kare pane… iye akaita kunge akasundirwa zvakakwana. Saka akafambisa pfungwa uye isu takango ita seyakaumburidzwa pamusoro ndokutanga kuda mukati mayo. Charley ishamwari yakanaka kwazvo yakaita yakawanda kwazvo mudhudhudhu kutenderera pabhasikoro remagetsi muAustralia. Nekudaro hongu, akatendeuka zvakatibatsira chaizvo kana zvasvika pakutaura nezvenzira yaunozviita nayo uye kuti zvakakosha kufunga neimwe nzira. Ipfungwa yakasarudzika… nezve kuchaja bhasikoro…. Zvisinei hazvo pataitaura nezvazvo, zvakashanduka kunge fait accompli… isu taingoda kuzviita pamabhasikoro emagetsi.
Patakangofunga kuenda kumagetsi, takabva taziva kuti mabhasikoro atinogona kufamba. Isu takaongorora mashoma emabhasikoro akasiyana zvachose uye maHarleys…. Isu tinongofara kwazvo kuve nehanya naHarley-Davidson semhedzisiro yemhando yakakura kudaro. Uye modhi yausingafunge pamusoro pekuve kumucheto kunotungamira kwechimwe chinhu chemagetsi, unoziva; ndezvekukura kukuru kwepeturu V-mapatya injini. Isu tanga tichifarira nekuda kwekuti vanga vachinyanya kufarira ivo kazhinji vaitaridzika kunge vachimanikidza mune izvi.
Zvino isu taifanira kudzidza kuzviita uye takazviita, kunge pane mahwanda… .Ndinoreva kuti mabhasikoro anga ari prototype uye takavakumbira kuti varatidze munzira yebhasikoro nekuisa kumiswa kwepamusoro. Charley ainetsekana navo uye achishandira kuona zvatingadai takafarira nekusimudzwa kwepamusoro kumashure nekumberi, zvichiita kuti bhasikoro riwedzere; yepamusoro kuratidza skrini, gadzirisazve chigaro…. Vakatumira bhasikoro rakazotevera ratakuda kuenda, taifanira kudzidza kurishandisa… senzira dzekubata hupenyu hwebhatiri, yaive fomu inotonhorera chaizvo. Mabhasiketi anozotiona tichirwa nawo mushure mezvo zvouya kumitsara pamwe nawo. Ndiri kunzwa iyo inonakidza nyaya arc.
Izvo zvakakosha kuti wakasangana nevanhu vazhinji munguva yese yerwendo. Chero yechipiri inomira inodada uye inoita kuti iwe ugutsikane kuda zvakare?
Charley Boorman: Ah hongu, pane akawanda nguva. Pese paunofamba mabhasikoro emagetsi, iwe unoziva iyo nzvimbo iyo yauri kungoshandisa pakushanduka kuita chinhu uye mamhepo epamberi anokura kuva chinhu. Ipapo panogona kuve nemiswevi yekumashure, iri kuseri kwako… zvinoita mutsauko wakadai uchidzika nekudzika nezvimwe zvakadaro…. Isu takanga tiri kumusoro muBolivia uye yaive yakanyanya kuomesa kushandisa yatakaita… mimwe migwagwa inotyisa nemakorokoza makuru mumigwagwa nejecha rakadzika uye jecha. Iwe unonzwisisa nyaya dzese dzinovengwa nemabhasikoro uye kwaive kuri kunze kwebhuruu iyi yekugezesa yekugezera yekupisa nevakomana vatatu (vese mabhasikoro) mairi. Takapinza mumvura. Yakanga yakanyorovera mukati meakanyanya kukwirisa uye isu tanga tichikurukura kure uye isu kunze kwebhuruu takaona kuti mumwe nemumwe wedu aive nemapoinzi akafanana, iwe unoziva nemusoro wemhepo, tailwind kukwira, kuderera… nyaya dzakatikanganisa. Mushure mekunge taita nzendo mbiri pakutanga, tanga tichishandisa midhudhudhu yepeturu; isu hatina kumbobvira tava nezviitiko izvi. Saka izvi zviyeuchidzo zvidiki zvevanhu vegungano vanozviita zvakanyanya.
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Ndivanaani vari vako chaiye-hupenyu magamba emidhudhudhu?
Ewan McGregor: Zvinobudirira, zviri kutarisa-kubata. Ngatitarisei kumatunhu akasiyana zvachose emabhasikoro. Aifungidzirwa seimwe kurudziro yedu yekuita nzendo idzi munzvimbo yekutanga kwaive mutori wenhau wekuBritain anonzi Ted Simon, uyo akanyora gwaro mukati memakumi manomwe anonzi Kufamba kwaJupita. Ini ndinonzwa iye akawedzera kunyorera Nguva dzeSvondo or Svondo Occasions Chinyorwa. Muna '72, akasimuka parwendo rwake ini ndaive negore rimwe chete rekuzvarwa. Akange asiri bhasikoro asi akatsunga imwe yenzira dzakareruka dzekuziva kuti nyika inogona kunge iri zvakare pabhasikoro, saka akawana mudhudhudhu kubva mukukunda. Akanyora kumagazini yandinonzwa. Ini ndinonzwa kuti muperekedzi anotanga kuIndia uye ari munzira iyo zvakare… unoziva kuti anga ari mumugwagwa makore matatu nehafu uye zvinotanga naye akagara pasi pemuti; apererwa nepeturu uye akagara pasi pemuti uye zvinotanga naye kutaura achiti, Ndiri mamaira mazhinji kubva kupi, zvisinei ini ndakachengetedzwa mukati meruzivo… mukati mechokwadi chechokwadi chekuti mumwe munhu achasvika kuzobatsira. Uye murume mashoma anosvika pabhasikoro. Achakwira zvakare pabhasikoro uye murume anoenda naye kunzvimbo yemafuta. Chidimbu chinonakidza chekunyora. Iye chidiki chengano kana zvasvika parwendo, mudhudhudhu.
Mukumhanya, Valentino Rossi anga ari gamba rangu nekuda kwekuti isu takangomutarisa pamucheto we mudhudhudhu Mujaho wemakore mashoma kudaro uye iye akasarudzika hunhu. Akazara uye haafungidzike. Uye iye zvakadaro ariko vhiki rega rega… ane makore makumi mana apfuura… akanyanyisa kudarika kuti ave nekwanisi kuyedza izvi zvakadaro igamba redu.
Mushure meizvozvo tichienda zvakare kuhucheche hwedu, Barry Sheene aive worudzi gamba redu remujaho isu tambove vadiki, uye Charley akave nerombo rakaringana kuziva Barry zvishoma zvishoma.
Charley Boorman: Ehe zvakanaka, akanyatsokurukura murume wangu! Ini ndaimbove muresitorendi uye isu tanga tiri neboka revasonganiri pane imwe tafura. Uye isu tanga takagara pamagumo edesiki semhedzisiro yekuti isu takasvika pano nguva uye padhesiki rakasiyana paive naBarry naDamon Chikomo. Zvisinei, ndakaenda zvakanyanya sekuenda kuchimbuzi uye pandakangosvika pano zvakare, iye aive akagara pachigaro changu, achitaurirana nemumwe wangu. "Saka Olivier (Boorman), uri mukadzi akanaka anoda, urikuda kuuya kuAustralia here?" Ndakamubata pabendekete ndikataura ndinoziva kuti haadi kuenda newe, zvisinei ndicha! Ndihwo hwaive hunyanzvi hwangu naBarry Sheene.