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Lokho u-Ewan McGregor noCharley Boorman abakubonayo ngaphakathi kwesibuko sangemuva…
Abesilisa ababili abajabulayo nosuku lwezinwele ezinhle ezimisele ukuqala uhambo lwabo lwesithathu lokuphila kwabo konke. Ngemuva Indlela Eyinde eyisiyingi e 2004, Indlela Yesikhathi Eside Phansi ngo-2007, sekuyisikhathi sokuthi Indlela Ephezulu Ephezulu. U-Ewan McGregor noCharley Boorman bahambela iNingizimu ne-Central America yonkana ngemigwaqo kagesi ka-Harley-Davidsons nemigwaqo ebaphonsela izinselelo ezanele. Ngalesi sikhathi bahlanganisa amakhilomitha ayi-13,000 ngaphezulu kwezinsuku eziyi-100 ngokuwela imingcele eyi-16 nezizwe eziyi-13, kusuka edolobheni lase-Ushuaia onqenqemeni lweNingizimu Melika. Nakhu abesilisa ababili abakweluleke t2 ngaphezulu kwegama levidiyo.
I-2 yakho oyitholile ihambe amakhulu amakhilomitha eminyakeni edlule. Lolu hambo lukufundiseni ngobungani?
Ewan McGregor: Manje sesikhulume ngaso sonke isikhathi ngokwethembeka komunye nomunye futhi kulula komunye nomunye, futhi ngizizwa ngaphambi kwesikhathi kunaleso esasihamba ngaso uhambo oluyinhloko esalufunda kwenye indawo ukuthi kubalulekile ukuba nesibindi sokwethembeka futhi uma into eyodwa ingekho ' kufanelekile, ithi ayilungile, futhi ngokuvamile kunzima ukwenza lokhu, ngemuva kwakho konke. Kodwa-ke ngibona sengathi sesibonile ukuthi alikho izinga lokuhlala nxazonke, ukucasukelana. Kuhle kakhulu ukuyikhiphela obala bese usho into eyodwa bese ngamunye wethu uzama lokhu. Nginomuzwa wokuthi sinezikhathi ezinzima nezimbi, noma ngabe kukhulu kunokuthile, simane nje silungele omunye nomunye.
Nginomuzwa wokuthi kunezikhathi lapho singafundelana khona. Ubungani obuhle kakhulu; Nginomuzwa wokuthi simane sifunde kahle kakhulu. Kuhambo lonke lwebhayisikili lwezinyanga ezintathu noma izinyanga ezine, nihlala nikhona njalo; usebenzisa okulandelayo komunye nomunye, ubheka ngqo endaweni yokubhuka ngokubambisana futhi ubeka namatende ngokuhlanganyela. Akunandaba ukuthi nihlangene ngokujwayelekile. Wenza konke okukhethiwe ngokuhlanganyela, njengokuthi 'indawo iya ngokulandelayo'. Ngakho-ke, ngemuva kwakho konke, kuzoba nezikhathi uma nje kufanele ube wedwa futhi uzoba. Siyakwazi ukuzwa omunye nomunye… uma kunamandla futhi sisebenzisa futhi kubanda futhi kumanzi noma uma usebenzisa isikhathi sasebusuku… yilezi zimo ezinzima, siyasizana; simane sigcinana lapho sihamba. Ubungane obuhlukanisa ngempela.
UCharley Boorman: Ngiyakukhumbula ndoda. Sahlangana iminyaka engama-25 edlule kusethi ye-movie. Besilokhu senza ngamunye kwifilimu… ngamunye wethu ubenezingane zethu zokuqala. Ngikhumbula ingxoxo yethu yokuqala… mayelana namabhayisikili neminyaka engama-25 kamuva, noma kunjalo siyathumelana amanothi afana nalawa: “Ubungeke ufune ukuthenga lesi sithuthuthu?” Futhi simane sikunikeza izinyanga ezintathu zokusebenzisa ngokubambisana kwizithuthuthu futhi noma kunjalo sithumelelana izithombe izithuthuthu ukuthi sifisa.
Nginomuzwa wokuthi empeleni kubalulekile ukuthi abantu babe nentshiseko… intshisekelo… besebenzisa amahhashi noma ukugibela noma ukusebenzisa amabhayisikili noma ngabe kunjani. Kuhle kakhulu emphefumulweni. Futhi uma ungathola umuntu ozihlanganisa naye ozokwazi ukuhlanganyela nakho okuhlangenwe nakho no… ozijabulela kakhulu njengoba wenza, kusho ukuthi kufana nomdlalo owenziwe ezulwini empeleni. Ngemuva kwalokho ngibe nekhono lokuhamba ngithathe uhambo olukhulu lwesithathu ngokuhlanganyela futhi ngibe nobuchwepheshe bezizwe, abantu namasiko ngokudla nangezilimi…. Njengoba ngishilo, kuhle impela; ubuhlobo obuhlukile futhi obukhethekile. Nginomuzwa wokuthi ngamunye wethu unenhlanhla enkulu.
Ngabe bekunezinga elithile ukube ubenqikaza ngamaHarley kagesi, ngezinga elithile uma udinga ukwehluka ngefomethi?
Ewan McGregor: Kube inkambo ethathe isikhathi eside ukuxazulula ukuqhubeka amabhayisikili kagesi. Kusithathe isikhathi ukuthi sikucabangele. URuss Malkin, umdidiyeli wethu, uwuthathile umqondo. Ngizizwa ngisheshe kakhulu lapho sizimisele ukwenza lolu hambo bekungathi mhlawumbe singahamba ngamabhayisikili kagesi. Uyakuqonda ukuthi sekuyisikhathi eside lokho, futhi lokho kungahle kube ngumphumela kaRuss angafisa kakhulu ngezingqinamba ezingakaqedwa ngaphambi kuka… uhlohlwe ngokwanele. Ngakho-ke wahambisa umcabango futhi samane sawuthambisa futhi saqala ukufuna kuwo. UCharley ungumngane omuhle kakhulu owenza okuningi isithuthuthu ukuvakasha ebhayisikili likagesi e-Australia. Kodwa-ke yebo, uphenduke waba lusizo kithi uma kukhulunywa ngokukhuluma ngendlela owenza ngayo nokuthi kubalulekile ukucabanga ngendlela ehlukile. Kungumqondo ohlukile… mayelana nokushaja ibhayisikili…. Kodwa-ke ngenkathi sikhuluma ngayo, kwajika kwaba sengathi yi-fait accompli… simane nje sidinga ukukwenza emabhayisikili kagesi.
Ngokushesha lapho sinquma ukuya kugesi, lapho-ke sasidinga ukuthola amabhayisikili esingawahamba. Sihlole amabhayisikili ambalwa nje ahluke ngokuphelele namaHarleys…. Simane nje sijabule kakhulu ukukhathazeka nge-Harley-Davidson ngenxa yokuthi imodeli enkulu kangaka. Futhi imodeli ongeke ucabange ngayo ukuthi ungqenqemeni oluholayo lwento ethile kagesi, uyabona; kumayelana nezinjini ezinkulu zama-V-twin ezishaya uphethiloli ezinkulu. Besikade sinomdlandla ngenxa yokuthi bebenomdlandla ovame ukubonakala ngathi bayaphusha kulokhu.
Sibe sesidinga ukuthi sifunde ukukwenza futhi sakwenza, okufana nenselo… Ngasho ukuthi amabhayisikili abekade eyisibonelo futhi sabacela ukuthi bawukhombise njengebhayisikili lohambo ngokubeka ukumiswa okuphezulu. UCharley wayebakhathalela kakhulu futhi ekhonza ukunquma ukuthi yini ebesingayithanda nokumiswa okuphezulu ngemuva nangaphambili, okwenza ibhayisikili lenyuke; ephakeme ukubonisa screen, kabusha isihlalo…. Bathumele ibhayisikili ngemuva kwalokho okwakumele sihambe kulo, sasidinga ukufunda ukulisebenzisa… njengezindlela zokubamba impilo yebhethri, okwakuyindlela epholile impela. Amabhayisikili azosibona silwa nawo ngemuva kwalokho eza emabintana nawo. Nginomuzwa wokuthi indaba emnandi leyo.
Kubalulekile ukuthi uhlangane nabantu abaningi kulo lonke uhambo. Noma yimuphi umzuzwana oziqhenyayo futhi akwenze wenelise ukufuna futhi?
UCharley Boorman: O, yebo, kunezikhathi eziningi kangaka. Noma nini lapho uhamba amabhayisikili kagesi, uyabona indawo oyisebenzisayo nje ekuphendukeni ibe yinto futhi izivunguvungu zomoya zikhula zibe yinto. Lapho-ke kungahle kube nemisila yomsila, engemuva kwakho… kwenza umehluko onjalo wehle ekwehleni nezinto ezinjalo…. Besikade siseBolivia futhi bekuyindlela enzima kakhulu esisebenzise ngayo ... imigwaqo ethile esabekayo namalambu amakhulu emigwaqeni nakubhuqu olunesihlabathi nesihlabathi. Uyaziqonda zonke izingqinamba abazizondayo abashayeli bamabhayisikili futhi bekungekho kokuluhlaza lokhu kubhavu oshisayo oshisayo onalezi zinsizwa ezintathu (wonke amabhayisikili) kuwo. Sangena emanzini. Kwakumnandi impela ngaphakathi kokuphakama ngokweqile futhi sasikade sixoxa futhi ngaphandle koluhlaza okwesibhakabhaka sabona ukuthi sonke sinamaphoyinti afanayo, owabona ngokushaywa umoya, ukukhuphuka ngemuva, ukwehla… izingqinamba ezisithintile. Ngemuva kokwenza uhambo olungu-2 ngaphambili, besisebenzisa izithuthuthu zikaphethiloli; sasingakaze sibe nalokhu okuhlangenwe nakho. Ngakho-ke lokhu kukhumbula okuncane kwabantu bomhlangano kukwenza kucace kakhulu.
Indlela Ephezulu Ephezulu izoqala ukukhonjiswa ngo-Septhemba 18 ku-Apple TV +
Angobani amaqhawe akho ezithuthuthu zangempela?
U-Ewan McGregor: Ngokuphumelelayo, kuthatha ukunakwa. Ake sigxile ezindaweni ezihluke ngokuphelele zebhayisikili. Esinye sezikhuthazo zethu zokwenza lolu hambo kwasekuqaleni kwakuyintatheli yaseBrithani ebizwa ngoTed Simon, owabhala umhlahlandlela eminyakeni engamashumi ayisikhombisa ebizwa ngokuthi Ukuhamba kukaJupiter. Nginomuzwa wokuthi ubhalele ngokungeziwe Isikhathi Sangesonto or ISunday Occasions Journal. Ngo-'72, waqala uhambo lwakhe senginonyaka owodwa ubudala. Wayengeyena umgibeli webhayisikili kodwa-ke wayezimisele enye yezindlela ezilula zokwazi ukuthi umhlaba ungaba kanjani ngebhayisikili futhi, ngakho-ke wathola isithuthuthu kusuka ku-Triumph. Ubhalele iphephabhuku engilizwa. Nginomuzwa wokuthi umhlahlandlela uqala eNdiya futhi usendleleni lapho futhi… uyabona ukuthi ubesemgwaqweni iminyaka emithathu nohhafu futhi kuqala ngaye ehleli ngaphansi kwesihlahla; uphelelwe uphethiloli futhi uhleli ngaphansi kwesihlahla bese kuqala ngaye athi, Ngingamakhilomitha amaningi ukusuka noma ikuphi, kodwa-ke ngivikelekile ngaphakathi kolwazi… ngokuqiniseka okuphelele kokuthi umuntu uzofika azosiza. Futhi kuvela amadoda ambalwa ngebhayisikili. Uzogibela futhi ngebhayisikili bese indoda imyisa esikhungweni sikaphethiloli. Umbhalo othandekayo. Uyinsumansumane uma kukhulunywa ngohambo, ukuhamba ngesithuthuthu.
Emjahweni, uValentino Rossi ube yiqhawe lami ngenxa yokuthi simane sambuka onqenqemeni lwe- isithuthuthu ukugijimela iminyaka embalwa futhi ungumlingiswa onjalo. Unamahloni futhi akunakwenzeka. Futhi ukhona lapho isonto ngalinye… uneminyaka engama-41 edlule… wangaphambilini kakhulu ukuba abe namandla okuzama lokhu nokho uyiqhawe lethu.
Ngemuva kwalokho sibuyele ebuntwaneni bethu, uBarry Sheene wayenomusa njengeqhawe lethu lomjaho ngesikhathi sisebancane, futhi uCharley waba nenhlanhla eyanele yokwazi uBarry kancane.
UCharley Boorman: Yebo kahle, uxoxe ngempela nomngane wami womshado! Bengihlala endaweni yokudlela futhi besikade sineqembu labangane edeskini elilodwa. Futhi besikade sihleli ekugcineni kwedeski ngenxa yokuthi sifike lapha sekwedlule isikhathi futhi etafuleni elihlukile bekukhona uBarry noDamon Hill. Noma kunjalo, ngahamba ngaya endlini yangasese futhi lapho ngifika lapha futhi, wayehleli esihlalweni sami, exoxa nomuntu engishade naye. "Ngakho-ke u-Olivier (Boorman), uyintokazi efunayo, ufisa ukuza nami e-Australia?" Ngimthinte ehlombe ngasho ukuthi ngiyazi ukuthi akafisi ukuhamba nawe, noma kunjalo ngizo! Lokho kwakungobuchwepheshe bami noBarry Sheene.